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Marine Weather and Tides
River Rouge, MI

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10/6/2018 Colors of tide XTide graphs changed to emphasize that they were upgraded. See next note. Comments welcome.
10/4/2018 I have fixed XTide and updated the harmonic files. There were some name changes so you might have to click EDIT to find the new station name.

Sunrise 7:24AMSunset 5:09PM Saturday November 17, 2018 11:52 AM EST (16:52 UTC) Moonrise 2:42PMMoonset 1:11AM Illumination 72% Phase: Waxing Gibbous; Moon at 10 days in cycle
NOTE: Some of the data on this page has not been verified and should be used with that in mind. It may and occasionally will, be wrong. The tide reports are by xtide and are NOT FOR NAVIGATION.
Marine Forecasts
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LCZ422 /o.can.kdtx.ma.w.0041.000000t0000z-181017t1615z/ 1145 Am Edt Wed Oct 17 2018
.the special marine warning is cancelled... The affected areas were... Harbor beach to port sanilac mi... Lake huron from harbor beach to port sanilac 5nm off shore to us/canadian border... Lake huron from port sanilac to port huron 5nm off shore to us/canadian border... Port sanilac to port huron mi... St. Clair river... The showers have moved out of the warned area and no longer poses a significant threat to boaters. However, waterspouts will continue to be possible the remainder of the day. Lat...lon 4357 8213 4300 8242 4297 8241 4295 8243 4300 8247 4322 8257 4362 8263 4364 8213 time...mot...loc 1432z 311deg 26kt 4287 8193
LCZ422 Expires:201810171554;;903658 FZUS73 KDTX 171545 MWSDTX Marine Weather Statement National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 1145 AM EDT WED OCT 17 2018 LCZ422-LHZ442-443-463-464-171554-


7 Day Forecast for Marine Location Near River Rouge city, MI
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Area Discussion for - Detroit/Pontiac, MI
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area forecast discussion
national weather service detroit pontiac mi
1049 am est Sat nov 17 2018

Aviation
Vfr will slowly deteriorate to MVFR with light snow as deeper
moisture works in from the west. Warm temperatures and very light
rates will preclude anything in the way of accumulation, but some
embedded heavier showers could cause temporary ifr vsby through
early afternoon, mainly INVOF kptk. Otherwise, modest improvement to
lowVFR this evening as frontal zone sags south and wind veers to
light variable northeasterly overnight. Light snow will return to
the detroit area early Sunday as the frontal zone briefly bubbles
back north, bringing a return to MVFR ceilings. Intensity is
forecast to be on par with today.

For dtw... Weak gradient increases confidence in maintaining SW flow
ops into early Sunday even as gradually veers through the northeast
quadrant.

Dtw threshold probabilities
* high for cigs AOB 5kft
* high for ptype of sn. Low for ptype of snra.

Prev discussion
Issued at 1002 am est Sat nov 17 2018
update...

the southern expanse of a corridor of stronger mid level height
falls commencing across central ontario easing a cold frontal
boundary across lower michigan this morning. Meanwhile weak
shortwave energy shearing through this suppressed height field
anchoring a broad area of light snow upstream, the forcing largely
driven by modest ascent beneath favorable right entrance region
upper jet dynamics and isentropic lift over the southward sagging
boundary. This forcing will tend to diminish with time as it
translates into southeast michigan this afternoon, with upper jet
support shifting into the ohio valley. Recent upstream trends still
suggest a higher coverage of light snow flurries is likely for a
period this afternoon - particularly south of i-69. However, the
lack of more meaningful upward vertical motion will certainly
restrict snowfall intensity, making accumulation difficult outside
of a couple hundreths here and there on grassy surfaces as surface
temperatures hover just above freezing. With temperatures now in the
upper 30s southeast of the glacial ridge, precipitation more likely
to fall as a light mix of ra sn from ann arbor to detroit southward.

A standard high probability of precipitation but of limited
consequence with minimal QPF snow accumulation today.

Prev discussion...

issued at 348 am est Sat nov 17 2018
discussion...

a cold front sliding through southern lower michigan during early
morning brings a light northwest wind shift that could carry some
lake effect snow showers into the saginaw valley and thumb region
during the day but with minimal coverage. There is a better chance
of snow farther south as the front stalls south of the ohio border
by afternoon. It provides a focus for a pattern of light snow or
rain snow mix to materialize with potential for a light and slushy
accumulation on unpaved surfaces mainly south of the i-69 corridor.

In addition to low qpf, a limiting factor for accumulation is
afternoon timing that allows surface temperature to reach the mid
and upper 30s as the snow arrives. This makes a rain snow mix
possible in the detroit area as the freezing level warms to near
1000 ft and results in single digit snow ratio elsewhere through the
event. Expect total accumulation less than 1 inch before snow
ends by evening.

The upper wave jet MAX moving in from the central plains and midwest
provides the primary forcing for snow within the frontal zone over
lower michigan. It is off to a good start as early morning
observations prior to sunrise indicate light snow occuring over much
of the midwest states. Greater intensity over iowa is also a
rain snow mix closer to the surface trough low pressure reflection
and where backed flow below 700 mb is producing moderate isentropic
ascent. From there, model agreement is convincing with the depiction
of a weakening trend through the morning. It is then able to
generate adequate areal coverage but only light amounts of
precipitation over lower michigan while shearing eastward through the
afternoon. Forcing weakens as the entrance region of the upper jet
remains well defined but isentropic lift dissipates as flow veers
above 850 mb. It appears this is due to separate height fall centers
developing near hudson bay and the central rockies while the larger
scale upper jet maintains fast flow over the new england states. The
weakening vertical motion field over the ohio valley is further
reflected by the quickly filling inverted surface trough that doesn't
reach the ohio valley until tonight as the central rockies wave
moves into the plains. This reactivates the elevated portion of the
front late tonight and brings a new chance of light snow near the
ohio border by sunrise Sunday. Farther north, high clouds are thick
enough to prevent full radiational cooling potential otherwise set up
by weak surface high pressure and light wind. Guidance that holds
low temps in the 20s is preferred for tonight.

The frontal zone remains active near the ohio border through Sunday
morning but plan to hold pops for snow in the chance range at this
point. This is where upward adjustments are possible in later
updates depending on trends with the eastward pace of the front.

Hesitant to bring any accumulation north of the border just yet as
the next low pressure system entering the northern great lakes
likely drives the ohio valley front eastward by Sunday afternoon.

Moisture with the new northern great lakes system remains primarily
north of SE michigan through Monday followed by a chance of light
snow Monday night as the associated cold front moves through the
region. This front reinforces cold air and below normal temperatures
through mid week while global model solutions maintain hope for a
warming trend by thanksgiving through next weekend.

Marine...

a weak upper-level disturbance and frontal boundary will move east
across the central great lakes today bringing widely scattered snow
showers. North northwest flow will continue to weaken as the day
progresses as high pressure builds into the region from the west
late today and into tonight. Winds will become more southwesterly
Sunday as high pressure settles over the central plains. A
tightening pressure gradient between the high pressure and an area
of low pressure tracking across southern hudson bay will lead to
gusty winds over northern and central lake huron Sunday, with gusts
of 20-30 knots common. Moderate southwesterly flow will continue to
linger through the early week period with broad high pressure in
place.

Dtx watches warnings advisories
Mi... None.

Lake huron... None.

Lake st clair... None.

Michigan waters of lake erie... None.

Aviation... ..Jvc
update... ... .Mr
discussion... Bt
marine... ... .Irl
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Weather Reporting Stations
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Stations Dist Age Wind Air TempWater Temp WavesPressureDewPt
CLSM4 - St. Clair Shores, MI 18 mi63 min W 4.1 G 8 37°F 1025.1 hPa
AGCM4 38 mi35 min 37°F 46°F1024.1 hPa
TWCO1 40 mi23 min NW 2.9 G 5.1 39°F 1021.9 hPa33°F
SBIO1 - South Bass Island, OH 44 mi53 min W 7 G 8 38°F 1025.7 hPa (+1.3)
THRO1 - 9063085 - Toledo, OH 44 mi35 min NW 4.1 G 5.1 38°F 1024.8 hPa30°F

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Airport Reports
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AirportDistAgeWind ktVisibilitySky/WeatherTempDewPtHumidityPressure
Detroit/Grosse Ile, Grosse Ile Airport, MI12 mi58 minWNW 510.00 miOvercast38°F27°F65%1024.7 hPa
Coleman A Young Municipal Airport, MI13 mi60 minVar 310.00 miOvercast38°F27°F65%1025.1 hPa
Detroit, Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport, MI14 mi60 minWNW 510.00 miOvercast41°F26°F55%1025.2 hPa
Troy, Oakland/Troy Airport, MI21 mi58 minWNW 510.00 miOvercast37°F23°F60%1025.1 hPa

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