Monday, December11, 2017

Marine Weather and Tides
Waddington, NY

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Sunrise 7:31AMSunset 4:21PM Monday December 11, 2017 5:44 PM EST (22:44 UTC) Moonrise 12:38AMMoonset 1:16PM Illumination 40% Phase: Third Quarter Moon; Moon at 23 days in cycle
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Marine Forecasts
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SLZ024 Saint Lawrence River From Cape Vincent To Saint Regis 331 Am Est Mon Dec 11 2017
Today..Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming light and variable. Mostly Sunny.
Tonight..Southeast winds 10 knots or less becoming east. Snow.
Tuesday..East winds 5 to 15 knots becoming northeast. Snow.
Tuesday night..North winds 5 to 10 knots becoming northwest. Snow in the evening, then snow showers likely overnight.
Wednesday..West winds 15 to 20 knots becoming southwest 10 to 15 knots. A chance of snow showers.
Thursday..West winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast. A chance of snow showers Thursday night.
Friday..East winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southwest. A chance of snow showers.

7 Day Forecast for Marine Location Near Waddington, NY
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Area Discussion for - Burlington, VT
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area forecast discussion
national weather service burlington vt
407 pm est Mon dec 11 2017

A strong clipper low pressure system is expected to bring
widespread moderate to heavy snowfall across northern new york
and vermont. Winter storm warnings and advisories are in effect
for Tuesday and Wednesday. An arctic airmass will move in behind
the low pressure system bringing cold temperatures through
Friday before warming slightly over the weekend.

Near term through Tuesday
As of 401 pm est Monday... Winter storm warnings and winter
weather advisories are in effect for the north country as
clipper low is expected to bring significant snow to the region.

The rest of this evening should be fairly quiet as high
pressure to our north continues to pull away from the region as
a clipper digs south of the great lakes. Cold air is still
draining into the champlain and saint lawrence valleys with mid
20s across the northern tier of vermont and most of northern new
york. Expect overnight lows to fall into the teens early this
evening before southerly flow sets in. Once southeasterly flow
ramps up, as the clipper starts to move into region, warm air
advection will surge into the region.

Warm advection snow will push into northern new york and into
vermont during the overnight hours. The trends in the near term
guidance continue to point to significant snow accumulating
across most of the north country. Omega in the snow growth zone
amplifies with nearly 100% saturation in the dgz which all
points to moderate to heavy snow across the north country.

As the midnight shift described, the storm will move through in
two waves with significant differences in the locations of snow
accumulations. With the first warm advection snow, expect
strong south to southeasterly winds to push into the region
which will cause downsloping effects in the western greens and
adirondacks. These areas will be the last to see accumulating
snow and likely to see only see 3-6 inches initially whereas
the eastern slopes of the greens and across the saint lawrence
valley will see 6-10 inches. The closed surface low looks to
drop just south of the forecast area which will lead to the dry
slot perhaps not making it all the way into the north country.

With the location of that low track and the warm air advection
all day, is possible in the southern champlain valley and
connecticut river valley that the temperature profile will warm
up enough to see some rain mix in but for the time being i
haven't included that in the forecast. The second phase is the
orographic snow described in the short term.

Short term Tuesday night through Wednesday night
As of 401 pm est Monday... The second phase of the system will
come Tuesday night into Wednesday as the low pulls into northern
maine. Cold air advection returns and the flow on the backside
of the low turns northwest. Once this happens we'll move into a
more favourable upslope pattern where the western slopes of the
greens and adirondacks start to pick up some bigger numbers.

Froude numbers initially will be blocked Tuesday night into
Wednesday and so the snow should back up into the champlain
valley. Expect during this second phase that the upslope
regions will pick up another 3-6 inches of snow while the rest
of the north county sees an additional 1-2 inches. The flow
aloft picks up fairly quickly during the day on Wednesday and
the flow becomes unblocked so we'll be looking at the potential
for some blowing snow across northern new york with accumulating
snow moving back into the northeast kingdom.

Its going to be rather chilly on Wednesday as cold air
advection rips into the north country. Expect highs in the teens
across northern new york and in the low 20s across vermont.

With gusty winds its going to be quite the shock to the system
to feel wind chills back into the single digits above and below

Some lingering mountain snow showers will continue in the
evening hours on Wednesday however the flow will be turning more
west to west northwesterly so with cold air and flow across
warm lakes we'll be switching gears to a lake effect snow again.

Most of the accumulating lake effect snow will fall south of
saint lawrence county. Across the north country, with a fresh
snow pack and cold air still pushing into the region expect a
chilly evening with lows in the single digits above and below

Long term Thursday through Monday
As of 330 am est Monday... Large scale picture shows mid upper prevailing
across the eastern conus... While energy and moisture from the
pacific NW ejects into the fast flow aloft every couple of days.

Latest guidance supports the northern tier staying on the cool
side of these systems with several mainly light snow events
possible. Below are my daily thoughts for days 4 thru 7.

Thursday... Deep mid upper level trof across eastern canada will
result in favorable upslope flow... But 1000 to 700mb rh is progged
to slowly dissipate by 18z thurs. Based on llvl CAA and upslope
flow... Expecting remaining moisture to be squeezed out across the
northern dacks greens. Have mentioned chc pops with only minor
accumulation expected. Temps aft a chilly start will only warm into
the single digits lower teens mountains to mid upper teens warmer
valleys with brisk northwest winds. Weak surface high pres builds
into our CWA on thurs night into Friday... But next system approaches
our western fa by Friday. Very difficult to determine cloud
cover winds and impacts of fresh snow pack will have on temps thurs
night Friday morning. Have trended toward cooler side of guidance
envelope with -10f slk nek to single digits to around 10f cpv. Some
lake effect clouds could impact temps near btv.

Friday Saturday... Both gfs ECMWF show next weak clipper like system
and associated boundary crossing our cwa. This system will be weaker
and have less impact than current clipper. Still anticipating a
period of light snow activity... Given good 5h energy... Some enhanced
mid level moisture... And great lake moisture interaction with
approaching boundary. Several inches likely in the mountains with a
dusting to an inch possible in the valleys. Have continued to
mention high chc pops in the grids. Progged 850mb temps btwn
-14c and -16c... Support highs mainly single digits summits to teens
mtn towns to l m 20s valleys.

Sunday... Weak mid upper level ridge and associated 1025mb high pres
builds into the NE conus. Extremely difficult to time systems in
fast flow aloft... Along with amount of clearing and impacts on
temps. Have lowered pops slightly for Sunday... But timing of next
system could arrive quicker based on fast flow aloft. Clouds and
winds will impact temps... But have kept temps close to superblend
with lows mainly in the teens and highs in the 20s.

Monday... Guidance supports another clipper like system moving thru
the ohio valley into the NE conus. Have noted lots of uncertainty
in ensemble data and between 00z 12z guidance in track of surface
low... With some to our northwest... While others show a system to our
south. Have continued on the cooler side of guidance... Thinking
surface pres will keep system suppressed to our south... With another
light snow event possible. 12z ECMWF shows favorable mid level
moisture... Good deep layer lift... And moderate llvl WAA signature.

Plenty of time and uncertainty... So have mention chc pops for
now... With temps holding in the 20s. Overall pattern will support a
net increase in snow pack across the mountains with cool temps
keeping snowpack fresh.

Aviation 21z Monday through Saturday
Through 18z Tuesday... Widespread ifr to lifr develops at all
sites by early Tuesday morning... With significant impacts
anticipated to the aviation community. Meanwhile...VFR
conditions at mss slk pbg with intervals of MVFR CIGS vis thru
20z at rut btv and mpv in light snow. Expecting mainlyVFR
conditions from 20z- 04z this evening... Before widespread snow
developed from southwest to northeast across our TAF sites btwn
04z-08z. Vis will quickly drop to ifr with locally vlifr in
bursts of heavier snow expected at all sites btwn 09z-15z
Tuesday. CIGS will vary from ifr at mss to MVFR at
rut mpv btv slk pbg... With periods of ifr possible. Localized
southeast winds gusts to 25 to 30 knots at rutland on Tuesday
morning with breezy northeast winds at mss. Vis CIGS will slowly
improve at rutland aft 15z. Some low level wind shear likely at
mss mpv with change of speed and direction... Causing increased
shear and turbulence on Tuesday morning.


Monday night: mainlyVFR, with local MVFR possible. Chance sn.

Tuesday: mainly MVFR, with local ifr possible. Definite sn.

Tuesday night: mainly MVFR, with areas ifr possible. Chance shsn.

Wednesday: mainly MVFR, with areasVFR possible. Chance shsn.

Wednesday night: mainlyVFR, with areas MVFR possible. Slight
chance shsn.

Thursday: mainlyVFR, with local MVFR possible. No sig wx.

Thursday night: mainlyVFR, with local MVFR possible. Slight
chance shsn.

Friday: mainlyVFR, with local MVFR possible. Chance shsn.

Btv watches warnings advisories
Vt... Winter weather advisory from 1 am Tuesday to 7 pm est
Wednesday for vtz001-002-005-009-011.

Winter storm warning from 1 am Tuesday to 7 pm est Wednesday
for vtz003-004-006>008-016>018.

Winter storm warning from 1 am Tuesday to 7 am est Wednesday
for vtz010-012-019.

Ny... Winter weather advisory from 1 am Tuesday to 7 pm est
Wednesday for nyz027>031-034-035.

Winter storm warning from 1 am Tuesday to 7 pm est Wednesday
for nyz026-087.

Synopsis... Deal
near term... Deal
short term... Deal
long term... Taber
aviation... Taber

Weather Reporting Stations
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Stations Dist Age Wind Air TempWater Temp WavesPressureDewPt
OBGN6 - 8311030 - Ogdensburg, NY 49 mi45 min 18°F 1016.8 hPa (-0.0)

Airport Reports
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AirportDistAgeWind ktVisibilitySky/WeatherTempDewPtHumidityPressure
Massena, Massena International-Richards Field, NY59 mi52 minNNE 310.00 miFair16°F6°F65%1018.8 hPa

Wind History from MSS (wind in knots)
Last 24hrS7SW10S10SW11SW8W11NW8NW10NW7N8NW6N6NW6NW6NW6NW6NW8NW9W8Calm3N4N4NE3
1 day agoE3CalmNE3CalmCalmCalmCalmN3SE3CalmS4S5SW7SW10SW10W9W9W13W15
2 days agoS12S14

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