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Marine Weather and Tides
Montague, MI

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Sunrise 6:55AMSunset 8:40PM Sunday August 20, 2017 8:54 PM EDT (00:54 UTC) Moonrise 4:34AMMoonset 7:08PM Illumination 2% Phase: Waning Crescent; Moon at 28 days in cycle
NOTE: Some of the data on this page has not been verified and should be used with that in mind. It may and occasionally will, be wrong. The tide reports are by xtide and are NOT FOR NAVIGATION.
Marine Forecasts
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LMZ872 Lake Michigan From Michigan City In To St. Joseph Mi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Sheboygan To Port Washington Wi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Port Washington To North Point Light Wi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From North Point Light To Wind Point Wi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Wind Point Wi To Winthrop Harbor Il 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Winthrop Harbor To Wilmette Harbor Il 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Wilmette Harbor Il To Michigan City In 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Whitehall To Pentwater Mi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Grand Haven To Whitehall Mi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From Holland To Grand Haven Mi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From South Haven To Holland Mi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- Lake Michigan From St. Joseph To South Haven Mi 5 Nm Offshore To Mid Lake- 243 Pm Cdt Sun Aug 20 2017 Sheboygan Wi To Pentwater Mi South...
Tonight..South winds 10 to 20 kt. Slight chance of showers and Thunderstorms. Waves 2 to 4 ft subsiding to 1 to 3 ft.
Monday..South winds 10 to 15 kt. Chance of showers and Thunderstorms in the morning...then slight chance of showers and Thunderstorms in the afternoon. Waves 1 to 3 ft.
Monday night..South winds 10 to 20 kt becoming southwest 15 to 25 kt. Showers and Thunderstorms likely. Waves 2 to 4 ft.
Tuesday..West winds 10 to 20 kt becoming northwest 15 to 25 kt. Chance of showers and Thunderstorms in the morning. Waves 3 to 5 ft.
Tuesday night..Northwest winds 15 to 25 kt diminishing to 10 to 20 kt. Waves 3 to 5 ft.
Wednesday..Northwest winds 10 to 20 kt becoming north. Waves 3 to 5 ft.
Wednesday night..North winds 10 to 20 kt becoming northeast. Waves 2 to 4 ft.
Thursday..Northeast winds 10 to 15 kt. Waves 1 to 3 ft.
Friday..Southeast winds 10 to 15 kt. Waves 1 to 2 ft.
LMZ872 Expires:201708210315;;687174 FZUS63 KLOT 201943 GLFLM OPEN LAKE FORECAST for Lake Michigan National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville IL 243 PM CDT Sun Aug 20 2017 FOR WATERS BEYOND FIVE NAUTICAL MILES OF SHORE ON Lake Michigan. Waves are provided as a range of significant wave heights, which is the average of the highest 1/3 of the wave, along with the average height of the highest 10% of the waves which will occasionally be encountered. .SYNOPSIS...A cold frontal trough, averaging 30.0 inches, will settle across the northern Lakes tonight before becoming nearly stationary. An area of low pressure of 29.6 inches will develop along the front over the northern Lakes Monday night, and will move east into far southwestern Ontario early Tuesday while the cold front pushes southeast across Lake Michigan. The low will then deepen to 29.4 inches over southern Quebec Tuesday evening while the front continues through the Ohio Valley. Expansive high pressure of 30.1 inches will spread from the Canadian prairies to the western Lakes Wednesday night, and will linger through the end of the week. LMZ080-669-671-673-675-777-779-870-872-874-876-878-210315-

7 Day Forecast for Marine Location Near Montague, MI
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Area Discussion for - Grand Rapids, MI
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national weather service grand rapids mi
852 pm edt Sun aug 20 2017
latest update...

aviation

Synopsis
Issued at 312 pm edt Sun aug 20 2017
high pressure will continue to bring fair weather this evening. It
will become quite warm and humid Monday and an approaching low
pressure system will bring rain and thunderstorms Monday night
into Tuesday. A much cooler airmass will move in behind that
system for mid to late week.

Short term (this evening through Tuesday night)
issued at 312 pm edt Sun aug 20 2017
fair wx will continue late this afternoon through this evening
with high pressure still in control of the wx pattern. A cold
front approaching from the NW will bring a very small chance of
showers to our far northern fcst area toward daybreak Monday.

Showers in association with a warm front to the W SW of our area
should stay SW of our fcst area overnight.

Dry wx will continue through most of Monday morning and afternoon
though a few showers and isolated thunderstorms may develop in an
increasingly warm and humid and unstable airmass out ahead of the
cold front.

A consensus of 12z shorter range guidance time height rh progs and
latest numerical guidance all suggest that rather extensive cloud
cover will linger through Monday afternoon resulting in unfavorable
viewing conditions for the eclipse in our area. However completely
overcast conditions are not expected so the eclipse may briefly be
viewable from time to time from portions of our fcst area.

The best chance for rain and thunderstorms will come late Monday
evening into early Tuesday morning along and ahead of the
approaching cold front. Severe wx is not anticipated given
unfavorable frontal timing with decreasing instability overnight.

However locally heavy rain is possible late Monday evening into
early Tuesday morning when 1000-850 mb moisture transport will be
strongest in conjunction with precipitable water values
approaching two inches at that time.

Rain and perhaps a few thunderstorms will linger Tuesday morning
and early afternoon prior to fropa. However instability prior to
fropa Tuesday will be very weak given extensive clouds showers in
place Tuesday morning.

Cold frontal timing and a consensus of latest 12z guidance all
suggests that stronger convective redevelopment later Tuesday
afternoon will occur well to the southeast of our fcst area. This
notion is supported by the SPC day 3 convective outlook. Brisk west
to northwest winds will usher in a drier airmass late Tuesday
through Tuesday night when skies will gradually clear.

Long term (Wednesday through Sunday)
issued at 312 pm edt Sun aug 20 2017
the overriding message of this coming weeks weather will be our slow
progression into a more "fall like" weather pattern. As I pointed
out yesterday, the frequency of days with highs at or above 80 falls
below 50 percent, at grr, by mid week. Our afternoon highs from
Wednesday through Friday will surely show this to be true.

As it turns out the last time we had the qbo turn from positive to
negative (2014) during the spring into early summer, like it has
this year, we saw a similar pattern where below normal temperatures
becoming more frequent that warmer than normal temperatures. You may
remember how cold of a winter 2014 2015 was. In any event, this
tendency toward colder temperatures occurs due to a more meridional
upper air pattern, verses zonal being favored when the qbo is
positive. In fact we are now seeing this. When the qbo is negative
there tends to be more blocking in the mid to high latitudes than
when it is positive. That is why we get more meridional flow. Of
course this could also mean an extend period of warmer than normal
temperatures if the upper air pattern blocks us close to the upper
ridge position. My point here is we should whatever patten we get
into to be more persistent that last summer or fall. At this point
we have an upper troughs over eastern north america and that seems
to be favored as we go into the fall. In fact the cfsv2 and the 45
day ECMWF from the last such run do show this through september.

Getting back to our forecast for Wednesday through Sunday, we see
one such upper trough digging into the eastern conus, which puts
southwest michigan under the upper trough. As was pointed out by our
previous shift, this means unstable air due to cold air at mid
levels relative to warmer air near the surface. The sounding over
our area on Wednesday are not so dry at mid levels that convection
is out of the question, so do not be surprise do see showers added
to the Wednesday forecast before to long.

Another upper wave digs into the eastern trough in the Friday time
frame so afternoon showers would again be possible. Over the
weekend a system current over western asia, moves across the pacific
and tries to merge with the gulf of alaska upper low. This sends
another pacific upper wave our way. This will likely result in
another major precipitation event for southwest michigan but i
believe this is beyond our current forecast period, more in the
tue Wed time frame. One other aspect that I am nearly sure of is do
not expect any significantly warm weather in southwest michigan in
the next week or so.

Bottom line below normal precipitation and temperatures are favored
over wetter and warmer than normal Wednesday through Sunday.

Aviation (for the 00z tafs through 00z Monday evening)
issued at 851 pm edt Sun aug 20 2017
an area of light rain showers sprinkles was moving through the
chicago region at 00z. Ceilings however area wide areVFR. We are
expectingVFR weather to continue into tonight. Model data
suggests the precipitation will dissipate. After 09z, some light
MVFR fog may develop at the TAF sites along i-94.

The fog will diminish quickly after sunrise withVFR weather
expected the rest of the day. Cloud bases will remainVFR. There
is the possibility of some isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon
and added vcts wording to the tafs. At this point though both
cloud cover and chances for precipitation are a low confidence
forecast tomorrow afternoon.

Marine
Issued at 312 pm edt Sun aug 20 2017
winds and waves will remain relatively light through Monday.

Thunderstorms will pose a hazard to mariners Monday night into
early Tuesday and winds and wave heights will increase Tuesday
through Wednesday.

Hydrology
Issued at 312 pm edt Sun aug 20 2017
area rivers are around normal levels for the time of the year and
well below bankfull. Though we are going to get localized heavy rain
of over an inch late Monday night into early Tuesday, most areas
will not see even minor river flooding. Some water covered roads are
possible.

Grr watches warnings advisories
Mi... None.

Lm... None.

Synopsis... Laurens
short term... Laurens
long term... Wdm
aviation... Duke
hydrology... 63
marine... Laurens


Weather Reporting Stations
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Stations Dist Age Wind Air TempWater Temp WavesPressureDewPt
45007 - S MICHIGAN 43NM East Southeast of Milwaukee, WI 32 mi124 min ESE 5.8 G 5.8 74°F 72°F1 ft1016.2 hPa (-0.4)
45161 36 mi54 min SSE 5.8 G 5.8 73°F 72°F1016.5 hPa (-0.3)
MKGM4 - Muskegon, MI 37 mi44 min S 8 G 8.9 75°F 1016 hPa66°F
45029 43 mi34 min S 3.9 G 3.9 74°F 73°F1 ft1016.3 hPa66°F
45013 44 mi75 min S 7.8 G 9.7 72°F 69°F1016.2 hPa
MLWW3 - Milwaukee, WI 46 mi44 min S 6 G 6 77°F
PWAW3 - Port Washington, WI 48 mi74 min S 6 G 8.9 74°F 1016.6 hPa

Wind History for Holland, MI
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Airport Reports
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AirportDistAgeWind ktVisibilitySky/WeatherTempDewPtHumidityPressure
Muskegon, Muskegon County Airport, MI40 mi59 minS 410.00 miOvercast77°F62°F60%1016.5 hPa

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