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Village of Grosse Pointe Shores, MI

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Sunrise 6:31AMSunset 8:42PM Sunday August 9, 2020 7:42 AM EDT (11:42 UTC) Moonrise 10:48PMMoonset 11:17AM Illumination 71% Phase: Waning Gibbous; Moon at 20 days in cycle
NOTE: Some of the data on this page has not been verified and should be used with that in mind. It may and occasionally will, be wrong. The tide reports are by xtide and are NOT FOR NAVIGATION.
Marine Forecasts
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LCZ460 Lake St Clair- 934 Pm Edt Sat Aug 8 2020
Rest of tonight..South winds 5 to 10 knots. Mostly clear. Waves 2 feet or less.
Sunday..Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south 10 to 15 knots late in the afternoon. Mostly Sunny. Waves 2 feet or less.
Sunday night..South winds 5 to 10 knots. Mostly clear. Waves 2 feet or less.
Monday..South winds 5 to 10 knots increasing to 10 to 15 knots in the late morning and afternoon. Mostly Sunny. A chance of showers and Thunderstorms in the afternoon. Waves 2 feet or less.
Monday night..Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots diminishing to 5 to 10 knots in the late evening and overnight. Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and Thunderstorms. Waves 2 feet or less.
Tuesday..Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots veering to the northeast in the evening. Partly cloudy. A chance of showers. Waves 2 feet or less.
Wednesday..East winds 5 to 10 knots. Partly cloudy. Waves 2 feet or less.
Thursday..East winds 5 to 10 knots. Partly cloudy. Waves 2 feet or less.
LCZ460 Expires:202008090800;;150131 FZUS63 KDTX 090134 GLFSC Lake St Clair Forecast National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 934 PM EDT Sat Aug 8 2020 Waves are the significant wave height - the average of the highest 1/3 of the wave spectrum. Occasional wave height is the average of the highest 1/10 of the wave spectrum. .SYNOPSIS...Broad high pressure, averaging 30.20 inches, will depart east towards the Mid-Atlantic into tonight, as a broad area of lower pressure, averaging 29.90 inches, associated with an amplifying upper-level disturbance and attendant warm and cold front then crosses the region late Sunday night into Monday bringing scattered showers and thunderstorms across the region. LCZ460-090800-


7 Day Forecast for Marine Location Near Village of Grosse Pointe Shores, MI
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Area Discussion for - Detroit/Pontiac, MI
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FXUS63 KDTX 091001 AFDDTX

Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 601 AM EDT Sun Aug 9 2020

AVIATION.

Most of SE MI will be dry today with some degree of diurnal cu developing this afternoon. The chance for showers/thunderstorms still resides mainly around mbS as the axis of deeper moisture and instability continues to build across Mid MI. Best chance will be around noon as a cell currently over Lake MI tracks eastward through the morning. Farther south we look to remain capped through the afternoon keeping the tafs clear of precip. Southwesterly flow will prevail for all sites today as the cold front remains locked up west of Lake MI.

For DTW . continued southwesterly flow with diurnal cu field developing today mostly at or above 5kft. Lake Erie lake breeze front may make an attempt to wash through late in the afternoon - flopping winds around to the southeast for a period of time. We then start looking ahead at the system coming through early Monday which will be the next chance of thunderstorms.

DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES.

* Low for ceiling below 5000 ft today. * Medium for lake-breeze to shift winds from southwest to southeast after 20z this afternoon.

PREV DISCUSSION. Issued at 407 AM EDT Sun Aug 9 2020

DISCUSSION .

The return of mid summer heat and humidity is on schedule for today as early morning surface observations show mid to upper 60s dewpoint making eastward progress from the Midwest into lower MI. Expect this air mass to wash over the entire area as the day unfolds and as high temperatures make a run toward 90 this afternoon for heat index in the mid 90s. The increased humidity comes in with limited potential for thunderstorms with the best chance for activity actually occurring during the morning. Model analysis fields indicate a diffuse mid level theta-e ridge overhead in which elevated convection will percolate leading up to sunrise. A generous scattered coverage is possible mainly north of the I-69 corridor until about mid morning before dissipating as elevated instability fades. After that, the short wave ridge aloft reinforces mid level warm air and effectively caps surface based convection around the 800 mb level according to model soundings. It is possible that an isolated storm occurs around the Tri Cities to northern Thumb region either near the shoreline or moving in from higher terrain areas of northern lower MI. A low POP remains in the forecast for that area late afternoon through this evening.

Warm and humid conditions become firmly entrenched across SE MI tonight as light SW surface wind reinforces higher dewpoint from the central Plains and Midwest. This occurs under clear to partly cloudy sky through the night depending on the extent of cloud debris from daytime thunderstorms. The scenario for convection remains complex beginning with the ongoing central/northern Plains MCS and resulting MCV that is projected to move over the U.P. tonight. Activity tied to this wave remains well to our north but is followed by a new round of surface based convection along the northern Plains to upper Midwest cold front. These storms are shown to grow upscale enough for a chance of survival into Lower MI Monday morning and into SE MI by Monday afternoon. Larger scale support is limited to minor height falls shown in model data preceding the main short wave still over central Canada and the northern Plains. Mid chance POPs in the guidance package look reasonable for a weakening pattern of convective remnants.

Scattered remnant showers and cloud debris keep afternoon temperatures in check with highs in the mid to upper 80s accompanied by continued humid conditions. Boundary layer moisture stands ready to fuel another round of convection that organizes along the cold front moving into Lower MI Monday night. The front is driven into the central Great Lakes by the southern extent of the Canadian upper level trough. It provides substantial larger scale forcing that leads to a stronger low to mid level wind field and sharpening moisture axis ahead of the front. There is some concern about recovery of instability as a limiting factor for convective intensity but this should not have much affect on coverage which is worthy of likely POPs Monday night into Tuesday morning.

Assuming the strength of the upper level trough holds into Tuesday, then its passage should bring enough subsidence to push the cold front south of the Ohio border Tuesday afternoon. The post front air mass settles in with cooler and less humid conditions for the mid week period. The front itself remains active to our south and could brush the Ohio border region with some showers depending on the actual character of any waves in the zonal flow aloft. These carry low predictability for minimal POPs during late week and into next weekend.

MARINE .

Broad high pressure will continue slowly drifting eastward toward the Mid-Atlantic region today as return southwest flow continues to bring an increasingly warm and humid airmass across the region that will become firmly established today and Monday. Widely scattered showers and thunderstorms will be possible this morning associated with a pocket of elevated instability moving into northern Lower Michigan and possibly Saginaw Bay/portions of central Lake Huron. The better potential for showers and thunderstorms, however, will accompany the arrival of a cold front Monday. Ahead of the cold front, southwest winds will ramp up with gusts in nearshore waters likely approaching 20-25 knots. Drier weather and lighter, northerly flow behind the cold front passage will then prevail for the middle of next week.

DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES. MI . NONE. Lake Huron . NONE. Lake St Clair . NONE. Michigan waters of Lake Erie . NONE.

AVIATION . DRK DISCUSSION . BT MARINE . IRL

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Weather Reporting Stations
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Stations Dist Age Wind Air TempWater Temp WavesPressureDewPt
45147 - Lake St Clair 2 mi42 min SW 14 G 16 74°F1 ft1017.2 hPa (-0.1)
CLSM4 - St. Clair Shores, MI 11 mi42 min SW 6 G 9.9 71°F 1019.3 hPa
AGCM4 13 mi54 min 71°F 74°F1018.6 hPa
MBRM4 - 9014090 - Mouth of the Black River, MI 38 mi54 min 71°F 1017.3 hPa
FTGM4 - 9014098 - Fort Gratiot, MI 40 mi54 min 70°F 1016.9 hPa59°F

Wind History for Fort Gratiot, MI
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Airport Reports
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AirportDistAgeWind ktVisibilitySky/WeatherTempDewPtHumidityPressure
Selfridge Air National Guard Base, MI14 mi46 minSW 510.00 miFair69°F62°F78%1018.4 hPa
Coleman A Young Municipal Airport, MI19 mi49 minSW 610.00 miFair70°F59°F68%1018.6 hPa

Link to 5 minute data for KMTC

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