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Detroit, MI

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Sunrise 7:43AMSunset 5:01PM Friday December 4, 2020 5:46 PM EST (22:46 UTC) Moonrise 8:50PMMoonset 11:28AM Illumination 77% Phase: Waning Gibbous; Moon at 20 days in cycle
NOTE: Some of the data on this page has not been verified and should be used with that in mind. It may and occasionally will, be wrong. The tide reports are by xtide and are NOT FOR NAVIGATION.
Marine Forecasts
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LCZ423 /o.can.kdtx.ma.w.0057.000000t0000z-201115t1715z/ 1150 Am Est Sun Nov 15 2020
.the special marine warning is cancelled... The affected areas were... Detroit river... Michigan waters of lake erie... The Thunderstorm has moved out of the area and no longer poses a significant threat to boaters. However a gale warning remains in effect. Boaters and mariners should continue to refer to the latest marine weather messages for the latest information. Lat...lon 4172 8347 4173 8345 4173 8350 4177 8350 4196 8328 4202 8323 4202 8324 4205 8319 4205 8315 4196 8311 4180 8333 4172 8341 time...mot...loc 1648z 233deg 42kt 4197 8303
LCZ423 Expires:202011151659;;883356 FZUS73 KDTX 151650 MWSDTX Marine Weather Statement National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 1150 AM EST Sun Nov 15 2020 LCZ423-LEZ444-151659-


7 Day Forecast for Marine Location Near Detroit, MI
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Area Discussion for - Detroit/Pontiac, MI
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FXUS63 KDTX 042121 AFDDTX

Area Forecast Discussion . CORRECTED National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 328 PM EST Fri Dec 4 2020

DISCUSSION.

Temperatures have once again have climbed into the low to mid 40s today across most locations. However, colder and drier air is slowly filtering into the CWA behind the cold front, with some weak convective radar returns noted earlier in the day with the steep low level lapse rates and modest diurnal cape generated. However, formidable 700 mb mid level dry slot is taking hold and activity has pretty much dissipated.

Large scale northern stream trough axis swinging through the Central Great Lakes region this evening, and already in the process of phasing with the Tennessee Valley storm system, which will rapidly deepen at it moves to the southern New England coast tomorrow. Still looking at some lake effect potential across the eastern Thumb region tonight into tomorrow, as 850 mb temps fall into the negative upper single numbers to possibly as cold as -10 C. And there lies the issue, as inversion heights do not look to be much higher than 5- 6k feet, and cloud tops likely stay below the DGZ. Shallow nature of activity leading to plenty of mixed signals in the hires solutions, and could be looking a weaker multiple bands vs one dominant band. If dominate band does develop over far southern Lake Huron, would likely just provide glancing blow to Port Huron. Ultimately, do think winds will veer around enough to the north-northeast over Lake Huron tonight for the eastern Thumb to be impacted with lake effect activity, but will favor weaker multiple bands (somewhat similar to NMM or ARW2), and keep localized accumulations topping out mainly around 1 inch (low chance of an isolated 2 inch total). With water temps still in the mid 40s over southern Lake Huron (PER GLERL), still some concern snow will be melting or rain occurring right along the immediate shoreline as well with a prolonged onshore surface wind, which could be saving grace if in fact, one dominate band does attempt to develop and roll through the Port Huron area tomorrow morning. Outside of the Thumb region, looking at mostly cloudy skies tomorrow with temps near normal (35-40).

The forecast for the second half of the weekend into early next week will hinge on the interaction of a series of strong pacific upper waves tracking through Canada and then nose diving south into the western Great Lakes, as they run into the blocking upper level low over/near New Brunswick. Thus, re-enforcing shot of cold air, with 850 mb temps back down around -10 C Sunday night will keep the early week period seasonably cool before 500 mb heights significantly rebound for the mid week period, supporting a warmup well into the 40s. Although, there appears to be a strong shortwave tracking through Ontario on Wednesday, and this feature could delay the warm up if it dips farther south, as there is a strong degree of variance over the Great Lakes region per ensemble members. Outside of the lake effect activity over the next 24 hours or so, the outgoing forecast will have no mention of precipitation, but don't have a lot of faith that will hold in the Thursday-Friday time-frame (see 12z Euro/Canadian).

MARINE. A secondary cold front will drop south across Lake Huron this afternoon and evening shifting winds to more northerly along with spotty rain or snow showers. Waves in the Huron nearshores will increase to the 3 to 6 foot range requiring small craft advisories through Saturday afternoon. Winds will remain northerly Saturday then slowly back to the northwest Sunday as weakening high pressure moves into the area. A disturbance aloft will produce the likelihood of rain and snow showers Saturday over the southern half of Lake Huron. After Saturday, little if any weather expected through Wednesday with a diffused surface pressure pattern producing a relatively light northerly flow that will gradually back to westerly by mid week.

PREV DISCUSSION. Issued at 1243 PM EST Fri Dec 4 2020

AVIATION .

Cold front will settle southward through the evening bringing a brief period of CIGS at or near MVFR conditions with best chances from PTK northward. The Detroit area TAF may hold low VFR or briefly dip into MVFR this evening. Winds will start off westerly (southwesterly ahead of the front) this afternoon before veering northwest this evening to which they will then remain through the end of the forecast. With drier air streaming in behind the front tonight, clouds should scatter out but as the airmass picks up lake moisture we could see clouds around 4-5kft linger well into Saturday.

For DTW . VFR through the forecast with cigs of below 5kft into tonight before scattering out with drier air moving in.

DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES .

* High for cigs aob 5000 ft this evening, low for later tonight.

DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES. MI . NONE. Lake Huron . NONE. Lake St Clair . NONE. Michigan waters of Lake Erie . NONE.

DISCUSSION . SF MARINE . DRC AVIATION . SF

You can obtain your latest National Weather Service forecasts online at www.weather.gov/detroit.


Weather Reporting Stations
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Stations Dist Age Wind Air TempWater Temp WavesPressureDewPt
CLSM4 - St. Clair Shores, MI 13 mi46 min WNW 5.1 G 11 42°F 1011.9 hPa (+1.1)
AGCM4 35 mi46 min 42°F 42°F1010.8 hPa (+0.8)
TWCO1 48 mi16 min W 11 G 12 44°F 32°F
THRO1 - 9063085 - Toledo, OH 51 mi46 min WNW 8.9 G 11 46°F 1010.1 hPa (+0.5)27°F

Wind History for Toledo, OH
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Airport Reports
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AirportDistAgeWind ktVisibilitySky/WeatherTempDewPtHumidityPressure
Coleman A Young Municipal Airport, MI5 mi53 minNNW 510.00 miOvercast43°F28°F58%1011.5 hPa
Troy, Oakland/Troy Airport, MI12 mi51 minW 610.00 miOvercast42°F30°F63%1011.5 hPa
Detroit, Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport, MI16 mi53 minNNW 79.00 miMostly Cloudy43°F27°F53%1011.5 hPa
Detroit/Grosse Ile, Grosse Ile Airport, MI20 mi51 minNNW 710.00 miOvercast43°F28°F57%1010.8 hPa
Selfridge Air National Guard Base, MI22 mi50 minW 510.00 miMostly Cloudy42°F31°F68%1011.4 hPa

Link to 5 minute data for KDET

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