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Sunrise 7:54AMSunset 6:51PM Wednesday October 16, 2019 8:20 AM EDT (12:20 UTC) Moonrise 7:41PMMoonset 9:33AM Illumination 92% Phase: Waning Gibbous; Moon at 18 days in cycle
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Marine Forecasts
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LMZ323 Grand Traverse Bay South Of A Line Grand Traverse Light To Norwood Mi- 258 Am Edt Wed Oct 16 2019
.gale warning in effect through this evening...
Today..West wind 10 to 20 knots with gusts to around 25 knots becoming north up to 30 knots with gusts to around 35 knots. Numerous showers early in the morning, then periods of showers in the morning. Numerous showers in the afternoon. Waves 2 to 3 feet building to 5 to 8 feet in the morning. Waves occasionally around 10 feet.
Tonight..North wind 15 to 25 knots with gusts to around 35 knots. Scattered showers. Waves 4 to 7 feet.
Thursday..North wind 10 to 20 knots with gusts to around 25 knots. Chance of showers. Waves 2 to 3 feet.
Thursday night..North wind 10 to 15 knots with gusts to around 20 knots. Mostly cloudy. Waves 2 feet or less. SEe the open lakes forecast for days 3 through 5.
LMZ323 Expires:201910161500;;780670 FZUS53 KAPX 160658 NSHAPX Nearshore Marine Forecast National Weather Service Gaylord MI 258 AM EDT Wed Oct 16 2019 For waters within five nautical miles of shore on Lakes Huron... Michigan and Superior. Waves are the significant wave height - the average of the highest 1/3 of the wave spectrum. Occasional wave height is the average of the highest 1/10 of the wave spectrum. LMZ323-161500-


7 Day Forecast for Marine Location Near East Jordan city, MI
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Area Discussion for - Gaylord, MI
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636 am edt Wed oct 16 2019

Near term (today through tonight)
issued at 249 am edt Wed oct 16 2019

Another round of wind driven showers today...

high impact weather potential: wind and attendant marine concerns,
to include gales and lakeshore flooding.

Pattern synopsis forecast: sharp shortwave trough and deepening
surface low making their way across the area early this morning. Mid
level dry slot working into most of northern lower
michigan... Bringing a temporary end to the widespread showers to
that area (although plenty of drizzle in moisture rich low level
environment). Most persistent showers now focused across central
upper michigan and northern lake michigan within corridor of
deepening deformation frontogenetical forcing. Surge of strongest
cold air advection and strongest pressure gradient centered off to
our west across wisconsin and western upper michigan, with northwest
winds already become quite gusty in these areas.

Shortwave trough continues to deepen today as it works across lake
huron, reaching southeast ontario later this evening. Surface low
also intensifies a bit more, reaching sub 1000mb levels across
northern lake huron georgian bay this morning, before energy
transfers to rapidly developing "northeaster" moving up the east
coast tonight. Pressure gradient and surge of cold air advection
reaches maturity across our area today, setting the stage for more
classic northern michigan fall weather, featuring gusty northwest
winds and more lake enhanced showers. Good news is system will
remain a quick mover, with steadily improving conditions as we head
through tonight.

Primary forecast concerns challenges: addressing gusty winds and
attendant marine lakeshore flooding concern into this evening.

Details: expect northwest to north winds to be on the increase, with
frequent gusts of 25 to 35 mph (locally higher along the lake
michigan coast where NAM bufkit momentum transfer shows potential
for a few gusts approaching 40 mph) by later this morning and
afternoon. Shower threat will spread back across the entire area
quickly this morning into this afternoon as dry-slot exits and
system backside deformation spreads overhead. May even see a bit of
developing lake moisture contribution in favored northwest flow
areas as cold air advection intensifies. As mentioned above, system
will remain a steady mover, with forcing exiting stage right this
evening, leaving pure lake processes to generate additional showers
by later tonight. Despite an impressive over-water thermal gradient
as h8 temperatures fall into the negative single digits, overall set-
up for lake effect not terribly impressive with very shallow
inversion heights and plenty of very dry air within the upper
portions of the ever shrinking lake induced convective layer. Think
any lake effect will be spotty and very light at best after
midnight. Gusty winds this evening will gradually subside overnight
as system departs and pressure gradient relaxes. As for
temperatures, expect highs today in the upper 40s lower 50s to occur
relatively early this afternoon. Lows tonight will run about average
for this time of year, ranging from the middle 30s to lower 40s.

Short term (Thursday through Friday)
issued at 249 am edt Wed oct 16 2019

Quiet weather...

high impact weather potential... Minimal.

Pattern synopsis forecast... The retreating sfc low moving off the
east coast will continue to affect the weather over the upper great
lakes as the north to nnw winds will continue over the region. 850
mb temperatures Thursday morning will still be around -4c and warm
through the day and with the moisture in the 850-700 mb layer drying
out. So will expect that the le rain will diminish by the afternoon
as the sfc and 500 mb ridges build into the region. The ridges are
expected to remain through Friday, before they begin to move off to
the east. The next system will begin to push clouds into the region
late Friday night.

Primary forecast concerns... The models have been backing off the
timing of the rain with each run. So unless there is some major
shift back, there aren't any major concerns.

Long term (Friday night through Tuesday)
issued at 249 am edt Wed oct 16 2019
high impact weather potential... Minimal.

Extended (Friday through Tuesday)... The ECMWF and GFS both bring
rain into the region after 12z Sat and then take it out of here by
06z sun. Sunday, looks to be dry during the day, but rain is
expected to move into the region sometime late Sunday night (this
looks to be backing off the timing again). Monday, rain will be over
the region, and with a deep 500 mb trough that will move through and
lift out slowly on Tuesday. There looks to be a break in the rain
Tuesday night, before another shortwave trough moves through the
region Wednesday.

Aviation (for the 12z tafs through 12z Thursday morning)
issued at 631 am edt Wed oct 16 2019
deepening surface low pressure over northern michigan will slide
across lake huron today. Additional showers will continue to
rotate back into the region this morning and persist throughout
much of the day with MVFR to ifr conditions persistent. Very
gusty nw-n winds will quickly spread across the terminal locations
this morning. Gusts of 30 to 40 knots are expected, particularly
for the NW lower michigan terminal sites. Slowly improving
conditions expected heading through tonight.

Marine
Issued at 249 am edt Wed oct 16 2019
another busy marine period as intensifying low pressure pivots
across northern lake huron this morning, exiting off into southeast
ontario tonight. Strong pressure gradient and surge of cold air
advection on western flank of this system will bring another round of
very gusty north to northwest winds to the big waters today into
this evening. Gale force wind gusts are expected, developing on
northern lake michigan quickly this morning, spreading into northern
lake huron this afternoon. High end small craft advisory conditions
expected across the remainder of the nearshore waters. Wind gusts
will gradually subside from west to east this evening into the early
overnight. High winds waves will once again result in lakeshore
flooding concerns along portions of the lake michigan shoreline
bordering northwest lower michigan.

Apx watches warnings advisories
Mi... Lakeshore flood warning until 8 pm edt this evening for miz020-
021-025-026-031-099.

Lh... Small craft advisory until 8 am edt Thursday for lhz345-346.

Gale warning from 2 pm this afternoon to 2 am edt Thursday for
lhz347>349.

Lm... Gale warning until 8 pm edt this evening for lmz323-341-342-
344>346.

Ls... Small craft advisory until 8 am edt Thursday for lsz321-322.

Near term... mb
short term... Jl
long term... Jl
aviation... mb
marine... mb


Weather Reporting Stations
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Stations Dist Age Wind Air TempWater Temp WavesPressureDewPt
GTLM4 - Grand Traverse Light, MI 23 mi41 min NNE 30 G 38 49°F 1002.4 hPa
MACM4 - 9075080 - Mackinaw City, MI 49 mi51 min NNE 29 G 33 45°F 54°F1002.3 hPa
WSLM4 49 mi81 min N 30 44°F 54°F1002.4 hPa (+1.0)44°F

Wind History for Mackinaw City, MI
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Airport Reports
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AirportDistAgeWind ktVisibilitySky/WeatherTempDewPtHumidityPressure
Bellaire, Antrim County Airport, MI11 mi24 minN 010.00 miOvercast48°F45°F90%1000.3 hPa
Charlevoix, Charlevoix Municipal Airport, MI14 mi26 minN 22 G 2810.00 miLight Rain and Breezy48°F44°F86%1002.4 hPa
Harbor Springs, Harbor Springs Airport, MI22 mi25 minN 10 G 187.00 miOvercast46°F43°F93%1001 hPa

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