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Grosse Pointe Park, MI

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Sunrise 6:59AMSunset 8:07PM Wednesday April 8, 2020 3:10 PM EDT (19:10 UTC) Moonrise 8:02PMMoonset 6:41AM Illumination 99% Phase: Waning Gibbous; Moon at 16 days in cycle
NOTE: Some of the data on this page has not been verified and should be used with that in mind. It may and occasionally will, be wrong. The tide reports are by xtide and are NOT FOR NAVIGATION.
Marine Forecasts
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LCZ422 /o.can.kdtx.ma.w.0002.000000t0000z-200408t0200z/ 939 Pm Edt Tue Apr 7 2020
.the special marine warning is cancelled... The affected areas were... NEarshore and open waters from port sanilac to port huron mi... St. Clair river... The Thunderstorm has moved out of the area and no longer poses a significant threat to boaters. A severe Thunderstorm watch remains in effect until 100 am edt for southeastern michigan...and the adjacent waters of lake st. Clair. Lat...lon 4300 8242 4297 8241 4293 8245 4288 8247 4280 8248 4276 8247 4267 8251 4263 8251 4261 8254 4277 8248 4281 8249 4293 8248 4297 8243 4317 8251 4318 8233 time...mot...loc 0136z 307deg 49kt 4281 8212
LCZ422 Expires:202004080148;;740080 FZUS73 KDTX 080139 MWSDTX Marine Weather Statement National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 939 PM EDT Tue Apr 7 2020 LCZ422-LHZ443-464-080148-


7 Day Forecast for Marine Location Near Grosse Pointe Park city, MI
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Area Discussion for - Detroit/Pontiac, MI
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FXUS63 KDTX 081730 AFDDTX

Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 130 PM EDT Wed Apr 8 2020

AVIATION.

VFR conditions and light northwest to west winds prevail this afternoon into the early evening as weak high pressure passes through the region. Higher moisture content and cloud cover fill back in during the evening as a cold front moves in from the west. Ceilings lower below 5kft tonight with a chance for several hours of MVFR, as well as a period of light to moderate showers with frontal passage. Limited instability will keep thunder chances low enough to preclude a mention in the TAFs at this time. Cool northwest post- frontal flow takes over on Thursday with wind speeds increasing to about 20 kt by the late morning - gusts approaching 30 kt for a brief period in the afternoon. Typical cold-advection stratocumulus is expected with any broken ceilings expected to occur generally in the 3kft to 6kft range.

For DTW . A shift from light NW/W wind to S around 00z as an inverted surface trough passes overhead, then back to NW around 05z as the cold front moves through. Clear skies across the lowest 5000 ft expected through the early evening. Rain is expected to begin after 03z with ceilings falling to MVFR shortly after.

DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES .

* High in ceilings below 5000 ft between 03z and 10z.

PREV DISCUSSION. Issued at 345 AM EDT Wed Apr 8 2020

DISCUSSION .

Today will be the last day of the warm stretch of weather we've been experiencing for several days now. The split flow pattern briefly goes zonal today in the wake of last nights system with westerly flow preventing much in the way of moderation to the resident airmass. 850mb temps will once again hover around the mid single digits (C) today with a slight boost late in the afternoon with a slight backing to southwest flow ahead of cold front set to drop through the region tonight. After a good deal of stratus overnight due to cold advection, weak area of high pressure and deep boundary layer mixing should erode the cloud field and allow for afternoon sun. Highs will reach into the low to mid 60s.

Rain showers will return late this evening into tonight as a northern stream trough send a cold front down through the Great Lakes. A pretty strong surface low will track across central Ontario tied to the mid level vort max with the front draped down into the Mid MS Valley. Models hint as a second wave and vort max digging into the Ohio Valley to our west which will spin up a second surface low along the front which will progress south and east along the instability gradient. Little to no instability is present over southern MI as it was all washed southward with last nights activity thus will continue to leave out thunder mention.

Thursday will be a windy day as a tight pressure gradient sets up over the region in the wake of the strong cold front. Westerly cold advection will result in steep low level lapse rates and deep boundary layer mixing extending up to around 7kft per the NAM/GFS. Forecast soundings show a deep layer of winds in the 30 knot range through that layer. With the lack of a strong low level jet to try to mix into, it appears our gust potential will be capped in the 30- 40 mph range for the most part. The cold advection and steep lapse rates will also likely set off a period of afternoon showers. The added cloud cover will work against deeper mixing and gust potential, but at the same time should mention any more robust shower could bring a gust over 40 mph to the surface.

The front will mark the end of the warm stretch with broad troughing setting up through about Saturday. High pressure over the plains and the the low just to our east will set up northerly flow into the region with 850mb temps dropping into the negative single digits. Highs will be held in the 40s Thursday and Friday before slowly moderating Saturday and Sunday as the pattern shifts east allowing heights to rise.

MARINE .

High pressure briefly builds into the region from the Plains today before the next round of showers arrives later this evening ahead of a cold front. An area of low pressure moving across northern Ontario will pull this strong cold front through the eastern Lakes tonight. A tight gradient and cold advection may result in northwest gales Thursday into Friday. Below normal temperatures move in with harsh marine conditions expected until high pressure arrives to start the weekend on Saturday.

DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES. MI . NONE. Lake Huron . Gale Watch from Thursday afternoon through Friday morning for LHZ361>363-462>464.

Lake St Clair . NONE. Michigan waters of Lake Erie . NONE.

AVIATION . TF DISCUSSION . DRK MARINE . DRK

You can obtain your latest National Weather Service forecasts online at www.weather.gov/detroit.


Weather Reporting Stations
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Stations Dist Age Wind Air TempWater Temp WavesPressureDewPt
CLSM4 - St. Clair Shores, MI 10 mi70 min ESE 5.1 G 8.9 52°F 1006.4 hPa (-0.7)
AGCM4 29 mi58 min 66°F 41°F1005.4 hPa
THLO1 - Toledo Light No. 2 OH 38 mi70 min S 8 G 8 57°F
TWCO1 47 mi30 min ESE 4.1 G 6
SBIO1 - South Bass Island, OH 49 mi70 min SSW 5.1 G 5.1 56°F 1007.1 hPa (-0.7)

Wind History for Toledo, OH
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Airport Reports
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Coleman A Young Municipal Airport, MI8 mi77 minNNW 9 G 1710.00 miFair67°F39°F37%1006 hPa
Troy, Oakland/Troy Airport, MI19 mi74 minW 11 G 1610.00 miFair66°F41°F40%1006.8 hPa
Selfridge Air National Guard Base, MI20 mi74 minNW 10 G 1910.00 miA Few Clouds67°F44°F44%1005.9 hPa
Detroit/Grosse Ile, Grosse Ile Airport, MI20 mi75 minSSE 310.00 miFair64°F48°F57%1006.1 hPa
Detroit, Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport, MI22 mi77 minW 8 G 1610.00 miA Few Clouds68°F44°F42%1006.1 hPa

Link to 5 minute data for KDET

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